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Thursday, January 17, 2008
In the News on January 17, 2008
By Eric Livingston :: 4 Comments :: Email to a friend
 

Ryan Grim writes in today's Politico that anti-war groups are in full retreat after a series of devastating legislative battles in 2007.  After repeatedly failing to block funding for our troops despite spending millions on the effort, these liberal groups are now setting their sights lower and re-aligning expectations.  But while they are no longer targeting budget bills as strongly, these liberal groups aren’t giving up – their new tactic is to try to subject the President to Congressional approval on many actions relating to Iraq. 

“There was a consensus that last year was not productive,” John Isaacs, executive director of Council for a Livable World, said of a meeting attended by a coalition of anti-war groups last week. “Our expectations were dashed.”

Additionally, John Donnelly writes in CQ that leading Democrats are pushing to require President Bush to seek permission from Congress before entering into any long-term agreements with Iraq.  It’s unfortunate that the one thing Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama can agree on is tying the hands of the President to conduct international diplomacy with a nation who we are intrinsically tied to as Iraq.  As one State Department official put it, “You don’t need to go to Congress to receive a promise from a foreign government.”

In the Democratic presidential debate this week, Hillary Rodham Clinton offered Barack Obama a deal: Work with me to make sure Congress gets to approve any deals President Bush signs with Iraq setting terms for the two countries’ relationship, including any commitment of U.S. military forces.

Obama smiled and said, “Well, I think we can work on this, Hillary.”

In that moment, the leading Democratic contenders for the White House made it clear that their party would make an issue of the administration’s plans to sign a broad agreement with Iraq that would define, among other things, U.S. security commitments to that country. And the two candidates’ involvement in the issue — and their apparent agreement on it — guarantee that it will become a campaign issue through the primary season and into the general election.

Beyond that, though, it also suggests a brewing clash between the legislative and executive branches over the scope and nature of the U.S. engagement in Iraq in the years ahead. The White House maintains that it does not need a congressional sign-off for such an accord. The Democrats, citing several major precedents, have made it clear that they disagree.

Clinton, of New York, introduced a bill (S 2426) in ¬December that would effectively compel the administration to send any agreement to the Senate as a treaty. In the House, Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., filed a similar measure (HR 4959) on Jan. 15.

Today's Wall Street Journal publishes a commentary by Albert Brooks about what he argues is the intolerance of liberals.

Some might argue that this is simply a reflection of the current political climate, which is influenced by strong feelings about the current occupants of the White House. And sure enough, those on the extreme left give President Bush an average temperature of 15 and Vice President Cheney a 16. Sixty percent of this group gives both men the absolute lowest score: zero.

To put this into perspective, note that even Saddam Hussein (when he was still among the living) got an average score of eight from Americans. The data tell us that, for six in ten on the hard left in America today, literally nobody in the entire world can be worse than George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

This doesn't sound very tolerant to me -- nor especially rational, for that matter. To be fair, though, let's roll back to a time when the far right was accused of temporary insanity: the late Clinton years, when right-wing pundits practically proclaimed the end of Western civilization each night on cable television because President Clinton had been exposed as a perjurious adulterer.

In 1998, Bill Clinton and Al Gore were hardly popular among conservatives. Still, in the 1998 ANES survey, Messrs. Clinton and Gore both received a perfectly-respectable average temperature of 45 from those who called themselves extremely conservative. While 28% of the far right gave Clinton a temperature of zero, Gore got a zero from just 10%. The bottom line is that there is simply no comparison between the current hatred the extreme left has for Messrs. Bush and Cheney, and the hostility the extreme right had for Messrs. Clinton and Gore in the late 1990s.

Does this refute the stereotype that right-wingers are "haters" while left-wingers are not? Liberals will say that the comparison is unfair, because Mr. Bush is so much worse than Mr. Clinton ever was. Yes, Mr. Clinton may have been imperfect, but Mr. Bush -- whom people on the far left routinely compare to Hitler -- is evil. This of course destroys the liberal stereotype even more eloquently than the data. The very essence of intolerance is to dehumanize the people with whom you disagree by asserting that they are not just wrong, but wicked.

In the end, we have to face the fact that political intolerance in America -- ugly and unfortunate on either side of the political aisle -- is to be found more on the left than it is on the right. This may not square with the moral vanity of progressive political stereotypes, but it's true.

Julie Appleby of USA Today outlines business concerns with a plan in San Francisco to require employers to provide health benefits to their workers.  The city is mandating that businesses spend a certain dollar amount on each employee's health care, regardless if employers currently offer benefits that are acceptable to employees and affordable to the bottom line.  Many companies are complaining that to comply with the new law, they will need to hire more administrative staff to track costs ensure compliance, while firing current employees who contribute to the profitability of the business.  As one small restaurant owner said, in order to comply, "I would have to hire a new accountant and fire a few cooks."

Comments
By DCK@CHOPCO.US @ Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:33 PM
Hey Keeemosabae-

Get a life and a spine. Better yet, get over it. Bush did not steal the election from the country. He stole it back from the crooked Boards of Elections in Florida.

The incessant whining of the "left" tells me that those of us who love this country, are winning. You have no issues, excepting your hatred for George Bush. You have no valid platform. You have no solutions for any legitiate issues. You simply want to throw money at old, poor and illegal individuals, in the hope you can "buy" this next election.

The day is very near, when the "war on terror" becomes very personal for all of us in this country. Your friends on the "left" and others you have brainwahsed, believe we can talk to our enemies. You and your bretheren on the left; will be the first ones to decry the legitimate actions of our government. When it is your friends that suffer damage as a result of terrorist activities in this country, I suspect that your opinions will change. That is always the way of a pacifist and loser.

Wake up and get a spine!!! You can deal with the issue now; elect a President who will defend out country, or simpjy surrender and become next year's CNN headline.

By keeemosabe @ Saturday, January 19, 2008 9:54 PM
Dear Dck, To most Americans, defending the country does not include seeking out extra bonus wars,,, that if it had become necessary could wait until the first war was "put to bed". So that Iran would not become empowered to rule Iraq by surrogate or by force, soon. There was once a balance of power in the region. Now many think we must be Uncle Sugar Daddy to all the Iraqis indefinitely, who hate us for occupying their lands.. With conservatives like that who is afraid of liberal social policies at home to support education and health care for all citizens? Seems your policies create enemies rather that defeat them.

We will find out in November if you support patriotically our President's policies without question as you want all Dems to do...when Hillary is your ruler. I wonder if you think she will be abusing power if she were to act exactly like W. Hmmm!!!
Voter caging (a form of suppression) will soon be investigated by the Congress, and it will show that to disallow 10000 illegal votes, 90,000 legal votes were turned way at the polls. I wonder which action hampers justice and affects elections more? Hmmm! We now have the formula by which this travesty was enabled...it was by having heads of the Republican campaigns, first in Florida, then in Ohio, in an obvious conflict of interest, as the top elections officials there. Hmmm! Then there is the shortage of voting machines in cities, and the surplus in the rural areas. 10 times more voters per machine in some areas, resulting in lines tha meant waiting several hours or all day in line to vote. But I know you support that if it benefits your candidate, because that is exactly how dedicated and patriotic you are toward your country.

By Old GI @ Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:49 PM
I have often wondered what the turn out of WWII would have been like if the present day media and American bashing liberals had been in control in the past?

Maybe we would have only been fighting on one front, since it was only the Japanese that directly attacked us? However, it was a Democratic President that was in charge at that time, and he had the support of most of the country. The public information at that time was closely watched and edited by our Government to help insure the National Security and maintain public support.
This all changed with the advent of television coverage during the Vietnam War and with the social rebellion taking place at that time.
On the other hand this police action tied the hands of our military politically, and a “new breed” of anti establishment, American bashing liberals was born.

This movement was not entirely bad, as it helped expose the wrongs in society at the time and helped move our country in the much needed direction of Civil rights.
However, like many programs starting with a terrific vision for the future for many people it soon became a movement of self indulgences and selfishness politically.

Today we are left with the selfish remnants of this movement by many in the present day Democratic Party.
To help put things in perspective, President Kennedy would have appeared at least as a moderate Republican today given his views, and perhaps to some even a conservative. There is no-way he would have been viewed as a progressive liberal, given the standard of the Democratic Party today!

So my view is let’s get back to the basics, putting aside selfish ambitions and “Ask not what your Country can do for you, but what you can do for your Country”.

A closing thought; let’s all get on our knees and ask forgiveness and deliverance from our Countrie's selfishness...

By keeemosabe @ Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:41 AM
Yes, righties hated Clinton enough to try to overturn an election. Have liberals in Congress done such thing? No. They have respected elections. They have not believed their agendas should carry more weight than elections. This the case, even though W was initially installed as president by the most activist Supreme Court action in its history, by refusing to have a full vote count, and installing our ruler. This was one decision that the Supremes themselves cautioned should NEVER be used as a precedent. So Bush "won" the election by 538 decidedly challenging votes. And then proceeded to rule as though by a kingly fiat and as though he had won some sort of mandate from the people. Puh-leese. m If a Clinton had done such a thing, Righty heads would explode. Then to compound the issue, not only is an extra bonus Iraq war begun, which even if won, cannot overcome the fact that it was a Major Strategic MISTAKE, that has weakened and stretched this country and its military. Then he wants to ensured the mistake is carried over another decade, as though his poor decisions should trump new elections??? This proves that Republicans simply have no respect for elections. They really would prefer a king, a strongman and instead of a democratic republic ,,, they would prefer a BANANA Republic. They should change the name of the party to the "BANANA Republicans."



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